The Person You Mean To Be

The Person You Mean To Be Explores the Psychology of Good People, and How to Negotiate Even When You Are One.

In The Person You Mean To Be, join Dolly Chugh in conversation with Max Bazerman for an entertaining and thought-provoking look at the psychology of good people, based on Chugh’s book The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias (HarperCollins, 2018). With both stories and science, Chugh challenges us to let go of the idea that we must be perfectly good people and focus instead on being a “good-ish” person who is constantly growing and learning.

In addition, Chugh offered a sneak peek of her latest book, sharing – for the first time at a public event – what’s to come in A More Just Future: Psychological Tools for Unlearning Our Whitewashed Past and Creating a More Just Future (Simon & Schuster, 2022).

Dolly Chugh is an Associate Professor in the Management and Organizations department at New York University Stern School of Business where she teaches MBA courses in leadership and management. Her research focuses on “bounded ethicality”, which she describes as the “psychology of good people.” Her first book, The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias (HarperCollins, 2018), has received praise from Adam Grant, Angela Lee Duckworth, Liz Wiseman, Billie Jean King, and many others. It has been covered on the TODAY Show, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, the Atlantic, the 10% Happier Podcast, the goop Podcast, NPR, and other media outlets. Chugh’s TED Talk was named one of the 25 Most Popular TED Talks of 2018 and currently has over 4.5 million views. Recently, she launched the popular newsletter Dear Good People, a free monthly email offering bite-sized, evidence-based tips on how to be the inclusive person you mean to be. Her next book, A More Just Future: Psychological Tools for Reckoning with our Past and Driving Social Change, will be released by Simon & Schuster in October 2022.

Prior to becoming an academic, Chugh worked at Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Sibson and Company, Scholastic, and Time Inc. Chugh attended Cornell University where she majored in psychology and economics for her undergraduate degree and Harvard University for her MBA and PhD. She is a former doctoral fellow of the Program on Negotiation at Harvard Law School.

To learn more about Dolly Chugh’s work or sign up for the free Dear Good People newsletter, visit

Moderator Max H. Bazerman is the Jesse Isidor Straus Professor of Business Administration at Harvard Business School. His recent books include Better, Not Perfect, The Power of Experiments (with Michael Luca), The Power of Noticing, Judgment in Managerial Decision Making (with Don Moore), and Blind Spots (with Ann Tenbrunsel).

Bazerman received an honorary doctorate from the University of London, the Life Achievement Award from the Aspen Institute’s Business and Society Program, the Distinguished Educator Award from the Academy of Management, the Academy of Management Career Award for Scholarly Contributions to Management, and the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Organizational Behavior Division of the Academy of Management. In addition, Bazerman was named as Ethisphere’s 100 Most Influential in Business Ethics and as one of Daily Kos’ Heroes for going public about how the Bush Administration corrupted the RICO Tobacco trial.


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